.

NYPD Commissioner Kelly Slams Community Groups for Lack of Outcry to Gun Violence

Says community leaders have been silent about the 77 shootings last week, despite their protests to his stop-and-frisk policy.

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly blasted community leaders for what he believes was a lack of response to the recent spate of gun violence that left 77 injured or killed in the city last week, according to the New York Daily News.

“Many of them will speak out about stop-and-frisk” but are “shockingly silent when it comes to the level of violence right in their own communities,” Kelly said at an event in Harlem on Tuesday, according to the paper.

Kelly argued that there has been no demonstration about and shot in the leg at Bed-Stuy's Roosevelt Houses playground over the weekend.

“I'd like to see some political outcry,” Kelly said, according to the Daily News. “I want them to be outraged that a three-year-old child is shot on the streets.”

Elected officials were outraged at Kelly’s comments, with City Councilman Jumaane Williams, D-Brooklyn, calling his words “presumptuous and patently false,” as well as an “insult” to communities like his, according to the article.

“Maybe he'd like to come with me when I go to the families of the victims just hours after they’ve lost a son and see just how silent I am,” Williams said. 

In an email statement, Assemblyman Hakeem Jeffries (57th A.D.) called the increased violence "deeply troubling," and attributed it to the fact that there are too many guns and too few jobs: "It is unnecessarily divisive for Police Commissioner Ray Kelly to cast blame on others who do not have direct responsibility for the safety of our city."

Councilwoman Letitia James, D-Prospect Heights, agreed, writing via e-mail that "[b]laming elected and community leaders will not bring back the lives of those who died from senseless violence over the last few days."

"The NYPD needs to increase and re-distribute resources through hiring more police, developing new community policing strategies, supporting preventive organizations that interrupt and stop violence, and engaging the community in a real dialog geared towards ending violence. The police commissioner's comments are a distraction from the fact that stop-and-frisk is a failed policy," she added.

Jeffries suggested city and civic leaders put their heads together to find solutions to violence, rather than letting it divide the city.

"Moving forward, it is my hope that Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his administration will work closely with civic leaders to address the violence problem and improve the relationship between the police and the community," he said.

Joe Gonzalez July 11, 2012 at 06:19 PM
First, the NYPD Police Commissioner's post should be made an elected Office. All over the USA, local police chiefs & sheriffs stand for election to their jobs. If Ray Kelly had to campaign for his job, the NYPD would be a whole different operation. No corporate big would still have a job if the company was paying out over one hundred million dollars a year in out of Court settlements like the NYPD has been doing over the years.I personally believe New York City residents would NOT vote Ray Kelly to be Police Commissioner. Second, its time to confront the banks that take our collective desposits and make business loans to these gun companies who in turn make far more firearms than the legitimate market needs. The bankers financing the gun lobby are Mayor Bloomberg's friends & his past and current business partners. It's time to connect the dots.
Joe Gonzalez July 11, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Third, currently billions of dollars of Americans' tax money is being spent to pay for the 75,000 U.S. Marines currently protecting the borders of Japan. And, there are 50,000 U.S. Army solders currently protecting the borders of South Korea. I propose those troops be reassigned to protecting the USA borders and we might not have all these trespassers and drug dealers walking into our country. Fourth, I propose that some of the excess US Military troops currently protecting these foreign countries also be assigned to select areas in NYC to assist NYPD patrolling our streets. Any takers?
BOB July 11, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Sounds like this is a RACIST comment. Kelly is right and it's about time the Commisinor spoke up. Since most crime is commited by minorities and most jails are full of them. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT KELLY RUNS FOR MAYOR,
Jose A Encarnacion July 11, 2012 at 09:01 PM
Joe, I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you in regards to the Police Commissioner and how he is doing his job. But I just needed to correct you on your statement in regards to 75,000 US Marines protecting the Japanese borders. There is no way that the US goverment would place more the 1/3 of the Marines in Japan. In total the Marines are a small outfit a little over 203,000 strong. The purpose of the treaty was two fold to keep an eye on the Russians during the cold world and to prevent the Japans from going back to Imperial ways. In actually the number of throops stationed in Japan at any given time is in the range of 7,500 to 10,000. This throops are there as a preventive measure against Korea, China and any other unfriendly countries in the region. It seems that you mean well by wanting to bring throops to help fight probelms within our borders but unfortunately we need to keep an eye else where too.
heather paul July 12, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Why are guns and in broad daylight robbery confrontations with guns and shootings so "popular" on st johns place near Washington avenue.
Gregg July 12, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Really, Mr. Kelly? You are the Police Commissioner and there is a series of armed incidents, and your response is to blame the community itself for not complaining enough? I would think an effective, professional cop would look at the situation and come up with immediate solutions which don't infringe on people's Constitutional rights. If you are not up to the job, then say so, and you can be easily replaced. Simple as that.
pat July 12, 2012 at 12:57 PM
If the community did more this would happen on rare occasions. It is so sad that when someone finally tells it like it is, all the Blacks gasp, but when it comes time for action they sit back and go about THEIR business. The problem is also lack of homeownership. The majority of these people are renters, lacking community pride. Stop and frisk works, but the Blacks don't want it, so there you go. We all make the bed we will sleep in. Kelly is right on this one. It is so evident what he is saying, not sure why it is such a surprise. The Black community in NYC is doing very bad and I see no change in the near future, unless the race card is stopped being used and the truth is realized. It is crazy how my Black friends agree with this. I speak of this from insight given to me from my friends and observations and so does Kelly. There is a huge elephant in this city, but no one wants to speak of it.
Gregg July 12, 2012 at 01:08 PM
@pat; That is simply a racist reply. How can you blame "Blacks" for objecting to having their Consitutional rights trampled because the police can't do real police work? And blaming it on "lack of home ownership" is ludicrous! There are plenty of neighborhoods that are predominantly rental that don't have such problems. The only "elephant" issue in this city is the issue of a Police Chief who is so lazy, unprofessional & dull-witted that the only response he can think of to crime is heavy-handed tactics that strip away people's rights and blaming "the community". Again, if he can't do the job, let him step aside for someone who will!
crystal July 12, 2012 at 01:22 PM
drugs???
crystal July 12, 2012 at 01:40 PM
Lack of home ownership??? That makes no sense at all. I'm a renter, and all the renters I know and associate with are appalled at the gun violence in our Prospect Heights neighborhood. It's not just "the Blacks" that don't want Stop & Frisk, it boils down to it being a lazy underhanded way of harassing certain populations - primarily people of color - with there being no real improvement in street safety. Why don't street patrolers try to get to know and interact with the people that live in the communities instead of assuming every man with brown skin is a criminal? What about the influx of guns? Why it it so easy for everyone, even young kids to find and purchase them? Who is manufacturing and selling them? Not "the Blacks" I assure you. And who is responsible for the continuous influx of drugs Into certain communities? And what about massive unemployment, poorly performing schools, no productive activities for young people... on an on. I don't know the socio-economic level of your Black friends, but poor and middle class Blacks I know feel powerless to manage drugs and guns flowing through their communities. Speaking out and marching don't change anything, and calling the police doesn't eliminate the problem. What would you suggest they do to solve the big economic and crime issues? The problems are complex and interwoven, and obvious answers like yours will never work.
momasat July 12, 2012 at 02:24 PM
I think that all the comments posted have a ring of truth - but as a community we must do the right thing about crime-- when men who dont live on my block come to PEE - I yell loud go somewhere else and PEE and I really talk to them Yo! when its hot you remains smell - I dont want to smell it - I do it in a nice way and tell them where they could go - on the same token I have witness cops plaincloths (DET.) stop teens on my block and search them - I speak up but the fact of the matter is that stop and frisk does and has caught criminals - we have to start having more community meetings with the police & our representative - getting to know one another and knowing each other helps - this is for renters and home owners - Many residents know who does what and when but wont speak up ! We must work together !
crystal July 12, 2012 at 02:52 PM
I completely agree. I just believe that making this a race or renter issue is totally simplistic and naive. And I do believe we need to speak up and out about crime in our neighborhoods, I just haven't ever experienced this working well.
Jose A Encarnacion July 12, 2012 at 03:46 PM
I believe the community as a whole is EXTREMELY outraged when anyone is shot. Some people did get together to protest the shooting of the three year old. Pat, what have you done to help with the problem; since I assume you are part of the community? Perhaps you can educate us in what we are doing wrong. I am of the persuasion that “leading by example” is one way of helping the community. So Lead, bad mouthing and not doing anything is worst then doing nothing at all. It seems you are great at doing a lot of finger pointing and saying that we should be doing something. Well be positive and lead the way what should we be doing?
Gregg July 12, 2012 at 03:55 PM
If the residents themselves, and even this "local" website can identify where and when the crime is being committed, then why can't the police? St John's & Washington is notorious, and Franklin Ave has always been bad as well. This is not putting men on the moon, it's simple police work. I would wager that if you put a team from the Precinct in charge, they could map out an effective plan that would not have to involve stopping & frisking every person in the neighborhood 4 times over each year (which is what the current statistics suggest is happening). They would catch the perpetrators, and leave the law-abiding citizens un-harassed. Kelly is simply grandstanding and positioning himself for a Mayoral run.
Jose A Encarnacion July 12, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Stop & frisk wow!! Let’s see now how does that work? All kidding aside I am not opposed to the stop and frisk policy, it has done some tremendously good things mainly taking guns out of the community. However, I am strongly opposed to the application of it by the police officers who apply it. These officers bring their stupidity, ignorance, and disrespect of a person solely based on their looks, and ethnicity. As a male Latino making over 6 figures a year, a homeowner, part-owner of a small business, in my early 50’s I must look menacing since I was have been stopped and frisk for no apparent reason. I was harassed by the police at the Bedford Ave train station; their reason was that there is a high rate of criminal activities taking place on the G line @ the Bedford Ave train station. I always walk my fiancé to and from the train station every day. At night I will meet her @ 7 to walk her back home. On an extremely cold winter evening 3-4 months ago, I was standing inside the train station on Bedford and Lafayette Ave waiting on her. There was another gentleman waiting on his better half there too..
Jose A Encarnacion July 12, 2012 at 04:07 PM
Three officers walked right by him and approached me. No “good evening how are you doing sir” but “take your hands out of your coat pockets." I was then asked for ID, & why I was standing there. one officer took my license wrote my name and other information down; another patted me down and reached his hands inside my coat pockets frisking me. I asked what was he doing and why was I being singled out. I was asked why was I there. I told them I was there waiting on my fiancé’. One officer asked why; I told him its dark out I don’t want my woman walking 4-5 blocks by herself when I could meet her making sure she would be getting home safe. Another officer jumped in and stated they walked over to me due to the increased criminal activities happening at this train station of lately. I guess if your fiancé got home from work between 7-7:30 at night and the station where she gets off at was having an increase in criminal activities you too would be here waiting to meet and make sure she got home okay.
Jose A Encarnacion July 12, 2012 at 04:08 PM
The lead officer realizing that I was getting a bit outraged at being the only frisked, and questioned for no apparent reason other than for waiting on my fiancé and being a dark Hispanic. He thanked me for understanding that due to the increased criminal activities they were randomly questioning people. I just stared at him, because it is sometimes better to stay quiet than to created an opportunity for them to take action by speaking your mind. But I was bother that I was the only person of interest to them. They never once looked at or questioned the other guy who just like me was standing there waiting on his better half, the only difference was that he was white. So when people say stop and frisk is a good thing that is because they have never been stopped and frisked for just being a minority
Albert C. Thompson July 12, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Contrary to what you may think the Black Community does not sit back and go about its' business when it comes time for action. BedStuy has a very active network of civic groups and associations actively engaged in crime prevention, violence and quality of life issues. The faith based community, non-profits, Community Board, Precinct Community Councils, concerned educators, Development Corporations, block associations and the business community are all working to address the issue. To be sure our community leaders and residents takes civic responsibility very seriously. Elected officials have been very much engaged. Mr. Kelly and the Mayor both know them all too well. Across the Borough State Senator Adams Assembly Members Robinson and Jeffries, City Council Members James, Vann, Baron, Williams, Mealey, et.al., have all been visible and highly vocal about crime as well as other issues. Stop and Frisk in it's present format is wrong. Even Kelly knows that.
momasat July 12, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Jose , Jose- You seem to have alot of anger issues - it come across in your messages- but if you are stopped as many times as you state- I would get their names and badge # an make a complaint - If we dont voice our concerns than nothing gets done - As I stated earlier we, WE MUST SPEAK UP AND CONTINUE TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS - WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME ANYONE ON THIS BLOG GONE TO A COMMUNITY MEETING???
Jose A Encarnacion July 13, 2012 at 01:33 AM
Thanks for the diagnosis Momasat, aside from your ability to physicoanalysis me, I do agree with what you write about. I will definitely make it a priority to make the next community meeting,
dastuystrata July 15, 2012 at 03:05 PM
@heather.. St.John's Washington is a Stage aka the "Strip" for hustlers since the late 80's. That whole strip should be under federal watch. IRS, FBI ATF DEA. any where that you have low rental property next to 24hr bodegas and drugs yo u gonna have the formentioned problem. Why vent and complain on a blog. when u can go complain to the cops. Neighborhood gotta step up. with violent crime. "Snitching was only denounced with in the criminal element. Seeing something and not saying something with your name attached means your accepting the demise of the neighborhood your work hard for.
dastuystrata July 15, 2012 at 03:10 PM
Stop n frisk ..is smoke.. people behind the guns kill. take away the guns, then some one gets stabbed with kitchen knife. The atmosphere most change. not police policy.
dastuystrata July 15, 2012 at 03:18 PM
I think your comment is on point we must connect the dots.
dastuystrata July 15, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Bedstuy is is ground zero for the break down of human services. And it is all purposely done. Willy Lynch's ideals is in full effect.
Interested August 02, 2012 at 09:41 PM
Jose, you seem to be saying 2 things here. If you are not opposed to stop and frisk then it should be OK with you when the police are doing their jobs. Why are you irritated with your stop and frisks. They are simply being fastidious and trying to get guns of the street to make it safer for you and your fiancee.

Boards

More »
Got a question? Something on your mind? Talk to your community, directly.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors.What's on your mind?What's on your mind?Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell somethingPost something